tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post1037212196910226459..comments2023-11-05T03:29:20.511-05:00Comments on Mr Furious: Change I Can Believe In?Mr Furioushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03781439243585972721noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-84265298182173881542009-10-12T08:15:49.828-05:002009-10-12T08:15:49.828-05:00...and Maddow did a nice job....and Maddow did a nice job.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669616484991718478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-63601669352612848232009-10-12T07:53:21.717-05:002009-10-12T07:53:21.717-05:00I think I have to agree with John Cole at balloon-...I think I have to agree with John Cole at balloon-juice when yesterday he said:<br /><br /><b>"If I were gay and being treated like a second-class citizen, denied the rights straight people have, I would be blowing shit up, so I am not telling you to shut up or be patient. What I am telling you, however, is that the response from last night is completely and totally unproductive. In fact, it could actually be destructive to the cause.<br /><br />The past eight years the Bush administration declared open war on the gay community. Now, you have a President who has openly declared his support for the causes, and not only that, campaigned in support of those issues, and then just took to the microphone and gave a long speech in support of those issues. And the response? This is typical:<br /><br /> <i>'He has not even remotely tried to use the bully pulpit. He has not expended one iota of his capital to move anything through Congress…and DADT is rejected by something like 60% plus of the American people!'</i><br /><br />As I noted in the comments, what exactly do you think the bully pulpit is? When the President takes to the podium at the HRC dinner, and openly, publicly, and I think, passionately supports your cause, that is using the bully pulpit. There isn’t some magic podium with a sign that says “Bully” on it from which a speech can be given and all the wrongs in the world are righted.<br /><br />And despite the fact that Obama’s position is a 180 degree turn from the previous administration, which declared open war with the FMA, he is greeted with catcalls of 'what have you done for me lately' or 'just words,' feeding the right-wing narrative that Obama is all talk. Well played."</b><br /><br />I think this is why liberals lose a lot of elections. We have no sense of timing, tactics or politics. I am not here to pat anyone on the head and say 'your time' will come, becuase no one should have to wait in line to get their rights, but there is some reality to keep in mind here. There is a backlog of things that have to be done to restore the wrongs of the last four Presidents, Clinton included. That will take more than 9 months.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669616484991718478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-18553122968796079932009-10-11T19:11:43.629-05:002009-10-11T19:11:43.629-05:00I really don't care to hear another excellent ...<i>I really don't care to hear another excellent speech about Obama's plans to undo the Bush/Cheney doctrine until he actually does any of it</i><br /><br />Word.<br /><br />(As opposed to "words," which is about all Obama's good for.)Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15398931203483061703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-58429199424527138542009-10-11T08:50:42.845-05:002009-10-11T08:50:42.845-05:00Obama made a speech to the Human Rights Campaign, ...<i>Obama made a speech to the Human Rights Campaign, a gay rights organization, the other day, and Andrew Sullivan wasn't impressed. Of course he wasn't. He has a visceral hatred for the group for some reason</i><br /><br />The group's initials are "HRC". I think that explains it.Toasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03418826323088878609noreply@blogger.com