tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post8771402150167950385..comments2023-11-05T03:29:20.511-05:00Comments on Mr Furious: Drink up, ChuckMr Furioushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03781439243585972721noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-63308196880897133102007-09-09T17:47:00.000-05:002007-09-09T17:47:00.000-05:00Mr. F. wrote:"They should vote to oppose whenever ...Mr. F. wrote:<BR/><BR/><I>"They should vote to oppose whenever it's the right thing to do. Even if it doesn't turn the tide."</I><BR/><BR/>I agree, up to a point. The problem is that past that point Senate Democrats look like they're flailing. Foolishly, quixotically flailing.<BR/><BR/>Americans don't like it when people who are supposed to be leaders look like they're flailing. The public has turned on public officials for that and will again.<BR/><BR/>Where's the exact point where the principled stand and fighting the good fight becomes flailing? I don't think anyone knows, exactly.<BR/><BR/>But you can be sure of this: the entire right-wing noise machine would be only too happy to help hurry public opinion about Senate Democrats to that point as quickly as possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-34268937947302059262007-09-09T08:34:00.000-05:002007-09-09T08:34:00.000-05:00They should have filibustered on the SCOTUS appoin...<I>They should have filibustered on the SCOTUS appointments</I><BR/><BR/>But they don't <I>want</I> to!<BR/><BR/>I'll defer to Smitty and maybe S.W. here, but don't most major corporate political donators give more to the GOP than to the Dems? If the Dems show that they're <I>actually</I> opposed to those corporate interests, then they'll get even less.<BR/><BR/>I hate to seem so cynical, but the Dems are politicians. They understand power a lot better than any of us. This "they're just wimps" doesn't fly as a legitimate theory. I think, like the Administration and the resulting chaos and craziness of the Iraq War, the Dems have been getting exactly what they want to get the last year or so. <BR/><BR/>Talk about change will get a politician elected; actual change will get him back in the private sector pretty quickly.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15398931203483061703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-77595678915176391802007-09-09T02:03:00.000-05:002007-09-09T02:03:00.000-05:00That shouldn't excuse Democrats "going along to ge...That shouldn't excuse Democrats "going along to get along."<BR/><BR/>They should vote to oppose whenever it's the right thing to do. Even if it doesn't turn the tide. Make Bush veto, or override failure to consent...<BR/><BR/>If they don't have the numbers at least they can be making symbolic gestures. There should be no veil of "bipartisan" for any more of Bush's crap. <BR/><BR/>They should have filibustered on the SCOTUS appointments.Mr Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03781439243585972721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-35601857711959702552007-09-08T23:24:00.000-05:002007-09-08T23:24:00.000-05:00Not shining moments for Judiciary Committee Dems, ...Not shining moments for Judiciary Committee Dems, to put it mildly.<BR/><BR/>I give Schumer some credit for not stonewalling while moving right along. Even so, that talk about how he should've arm-twisted some more Republicans in the last Congress — come on. He would've gotten as far as if he had tried to talk Bush out the surge in January.<BR/><BR/>On the war, on nominating judges, Bush held winning hands in the last Congress and still does in this one. It's hateful, but it's how it is.<BR/><BR/>Getting anywhere last time reguired tilting the Judiciary Committee majority, which simply wasn't going to happen. This time around, it calls for getting 60 votes or better, and that seems almost as unlikely.<BR/><BR/>Senate Republicans have figured out they can make Dems look impotent all over the place, giving Republicans an advantage in next year's election. <BR/><BR/>That means unbearable pressure will be applied to any Republican who appears willing to vote with Dems on anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-88575954663836494182007-09-08T22:37:00.000-05:002007-09-08T22:37:00.000-05:00"Anonymous" was me, I was posting from Mrs. F's co..."Anonymous" was me, I was posting from Mrs. F's computer and didn't feel like logging her out and me in. Should've signed off to be clear.<BR/><BR/>I followed that up with several comments at Toast's without realizing I was signed in as Mrs Furious...Mr Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03781439243585972721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-16524726354319852632007-09-08T19:10:00.000-05:002007-09-08T19:10:00.000-05:00but you are the same "Mr. Furious" who used to pos...<I>but you are the same "Mr. Furious" who used to post as Shakes' place, no?</I><BR/><BR/>I wondered that for a while to, but then he started talking about his wife, and I know that Melissa's friend is gay. I actually went and looked up the post where she mentioned it at the time. Then the former Mr. Furious at Shakesville started posting as Todd. I can't find that as I think it's in the Shakesville archives. In that post he discussed his use of the moniker Mr. Furious and the reason he was dropping the nom de plume.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure Angelos would remember, he still frequents Shakesville quite a bit.michellinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05034726778989565660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-50969224689881964712007-09-08T18:20:00.000-05:002007-09-08T18:20:00.000-05:00This refusal to play hardball with the Republicans...<I>This refusal to play hardball with the Republicans continues to be baffling.</I><BR/><BR/>Not at all. Business as usual works for all in the business.<BR/><BR/>* * *<BR/><BR/>Notwithstanding that "Anonymous" answered Toast's question, I always assumed that the two Mr. Furiouses were the same too.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15398931203483061703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-34028652802887941932007-09-08T15:22:00.000-05:002007-09-08T15:22:00.000-05:00Nope. Different guy. I was actually just thinking ...Nope. Different guy. I was actually just thinking of him this morning because of Tart.<BR/><BR/>I've had this site for a little over three years, and went by Mr F at Kos for a while prior to that.<BR/><BR/>Picked up the nickname actually years earlier (based on the comic character, later played by Ben Stiller) when I worked in the comic industry in the early nineties. I was known as a hothead around the office (aka Angry Art Guy)... <BR/><BR/>Since that guy seemed to have falen off the face of the internet, without much of a trail, I like to think I can lay claim to the name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-61216822726697834222007-09-08T15:03:00.000-05:002007-09-08T15:03:00.000-05:00Off Topic: I'd never thought to ask this before, ...Off Topic: I'd never thought to ask this before, but you are the same "Mr. Furious" who used to post as Shakes' place, no?Toasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03418826323088878609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-83112173859678131872007-09-08T08:42:00.000-05:002007-09-08T08:42:00.000-05:00Don't fucking play stupid. It's insulting.Exactly....<I> Don't fucking play stupid. It's insulting.</I><BR/><BR/>Exactly. Do I look like a 28-percenter-Republican to you, Chuck?Mr Furioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03781439243585972721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-35180114823857885802007-09-07T23:17:00.000-05:002007-09-07T23:17:00.000-05:00This refusal to play hardball with the Republicans...This refusal to play hardball with the Republicans continues to be baffling. And the worst part is that they haven't learned anything as they continue to roll over and die on issues right now.michellinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05034726778989565660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-15090769145658455102007-09-07T20:12:00.000-05:002007-09-07T20:12:00.000-05:00Word, Furious. Don't fucking play stupid. It's i...Word, Furious. Don't fucking play stupid. It's insulting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7313509.post-88812065378091398192007-09-07T16:59:00.000-05:002007-09-07T16:59:00.000-05:00Isn't "hoodwinked" a great word? Like they're all ...Isn't "hoodwinked" a great word? Like they're all just the victims of some jaunty mischief? Next they'll say they were bamboozled.<BR/><BR/>Hah. And Schumer's one of the good ones...?careyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05678218751633225999noreply@blogger.com