Thursday, May 06, 2010

Quote of the Day

“Some of the people pushing this idea are also pushing the idea of banning handguns,” said Graham, darkly. “I don’t think banning handguns makes me safer.

[link] Senator Lindsay Graham (R-SC) trying desperately to rationalize why terror suspects should be put on No-Fly lists and denied Miranda rights, but still be able to purchase whatever fucking guns they like.

With the exception of part of the 2nd Amendment, the U.S. Constitution is officially null and void to these fucking GOP assholes.


Smitty said...

You forget, Mr. F, that citizenship in the U.S. is earned, whereas gun ownership is God-given.

steves said...

I certainly don't support throwing out due process and there are many in Congress that are horribly inconsistent when it comes to fundamental rights, but the bill touted by fucktards Lautenberg and Bloomberg is a heaping pile of fecal matter. I am sure no one is surprised by my opposition to this bill, but I'd like to think I am pretty consistent when it comes to fundamental liberties.

Here is why that law is bad. Basically, it completely ignored due process. The no-fly-super-double-secret-terror-list is horribly flawed. It is not available to the public. It is full of people that haven't actually done anything. There is no way that you can challenge your being placed on that list. The FBI has discretion as to who is put on that list and there is no real oversight. Sound fair?

So under the new law, you could be denied any kind of gun ownership if your name was placed on a list by someone you have never met. You couldn't challenge this in any way or provide any evidence that you weren't a terrorist. How is this fair?

Let's take a look at Ms. Collins's article:

Because Congress has repeatedly rejected this idea, 1,119 people on the watch list have been able to purchase weapons over the last six years. One of them bought 50 pounds of military grade explosives.

This doesn't tell me anything. Were any of these people actually terrorist? Ted Kennedy was thought to be on the list at one time, so we know that there are mistakes. What did this person do with the explosives?

Yes, if you are on the terrorist watch list, the authorities can keep you from getting on a plane but not from purchasing an AK-47.

Let's go over what it takes to actually purchase an AK47 in the US. Anti-gun writers and idiot journalists love trotting out the AK, because it is super scary and there was also that video of Osama shooting one, so it must be bad.

The AK47 is a machine gun, so it is regulated by the NFA. In order to get one you have to fill out several forms, get fingerprinted, get your local chief law enforcement officer to sign a form saying you are not likely to commit a crime, and pass a background check done by the BATFE. This costs $400 and takes 6-8 months. If you get approved, you can head down to the gun store and purchase one of the few available AK47's. They are heavily regulated and there are very few that are available. Expect to pay between $15,000 to $20,000.

Lindsey Graham is a moron and a hypocrite for supporting some provisions of the Bill of Rights and not others. That being said, Bloomberg and Launtenberg are also morons and hypocrites for cherry picking the parts of the Bill of Rights they think apply. I think it is very problematic when we have politicians saying some rights are ok and some rights aren't. The whole point of the BOR was say that there are some things that the State can't take away and only has a limited, narrow way of regulating. Some might say they are God-given, but I prefer to say that we have certain fundamental rights just by our nature as a free people that are inalienable.

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